Comments on: coComment or myComments? http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/ Connecting the dots ... Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:44:04 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Zoli's Blog http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-186 Zoli's Blog Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:31:53 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-186 <strong>The Third and Best (?) Comment Tracking Tool</strong> This has been quite a week for all of us unhappy about missing the other half of the Conversation:  in rapid succession three comment-tracking products were announced. First came coComment with a spontaneous (?) yet well-executed viral campaign t... The Third and Best (?) Comment Tracking Tool

This has been quite a week for all of us unhappy about missing the other half of the Conversation:  in rapid succession three comment-tracking products were announced.

First came coComment with a spontaneous (?) yet well-executed viral campaign t…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-183 Anonymous Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:21:22 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-183 <p>Rereading these comments, I realize I didn't answer your question fully. I love the ideas behind GoJot and coComment, but I wonder how they would make money. That is the main reason I disengaged from GoJot. I would be glad to see coComment prove me wrong.</p> <p>After I created GoJot I actually sat down and wrote its mission statement (note to self: mission statement first, coding second). Doing this, I realized what I truly wanted to build, and started in that new direction. It didn't have to do with commenting, so I set GoJot aside. Maybe I made a mistake?</p> <p>If you would like to continue this conversation via email, <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/1754" rel="nofollow">here is some contact information</a>. Thanks!</p> Rereading these comments, I realize I didn’t answer your question fully. I love the ideas behind GoJot and coComment, but I wonder how they would make money. That is the main reason I disengaged from GoJot. I would be glad to see coComment prove me wrong.

After I created GoJot I actually sat down and wrote its mission statement (note to self: mission statement first, coding second). Doing this, I realized what I truly wanted to build, and started in that new direction. It didn’t have to do with commenting, so I set GoJot aside. Maybe I made a mistake?

If you would like to continue this conversation via email, here is some contact information. Thanks!

]]> By: Changing Way http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-185 Changing Way Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:34:09 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-185 <strong>myComments? Or coCo?</strong> Lots of people, including me, have recently blogged about coComment. It certainly addresses a genuine need, or at least, a deeply felt want, in that enables you to keep track of the comments you've left on various blogs. Another comment-tracking ser... myComments? Or coCo?

Lots of people, including me, have recently blogged about coComment. It certainly addresses a genuine need, or at least, a deeply felt want, in that enables you to keep track of the comments you’ve left on various blogs.

Another comment-tracking ser…

]]> By: Webby's World http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-184 Webby's World Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:18:11 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-184 <strong>Now Using coComment</strong> coComment is a new website which allows the tracking of comments across various different blogs. Any blog which uses Blogger, MSN Spaces, MySpace, TypePad, WordPress, Xanga, Flickr, Kaywa and Mojira is supported. The system doesn’t support Movabl... Now Using coComment

coComment is a new website which allows the tracking of comments across various different blogs. Any blog which uses Blogger, MSN Spaces, MySpace, TypePad, WordPress, Xanga, Flickr, Kaywa and Mojira is supported. The system doesn’t support Movabl…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-182 Anonymous Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:34:58 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-182 <p>Zoli- Thanks for the reply! I haven't persued the idea of a comment search engine, so I don't know how hard it would be to put together. The RSS part should be easy, since all you're doing is packing structured data into a database and then giving users nice views into that data.</p> <p>For blogs w/o comment RSS, scraping comments from the page HTML might work. I would hope that the each popular platform uses uniform HTML markup for its comments. If not, it might take just a little guesswork.</p> <p>I guess I was reporting more on what I learned with GoJot that what I've done with it. That bookmarklets make too big an imposition on users, and that comment RSS already meets the problem halfway.</p> <p>Think the idea has legs? Googling 'comment search engine' doesn't bring up any obvious competitors.</p> Zoli- Thanks for the reply! I haven’t persued the idea of a comment search engine, so I don’t know how hard it would be to put together. The RSS part should be easy, since all you’re doing is packing structured data into a database and then giving users nice views into that data.

For blogs w/o comment RSS, scraping comments from the page HTML might work. I would hope that the each popular platform uses uniform HTML markup for its comments. If not, it might take just a little guesswork.

I guess I was reporting more on what I learned with GoJot that what I’ve done with it. That bookmarklets make too big an imposition on users, and that comment RSS already meets the problem halfway.

Think the idea has legs? Googling ‘comment search engine’ doesn’t bring up any obvious competitors.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-181 Anonymous Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:39:44 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-181 Sid, why "if .. would"? Does it work? Has it been announced / used? If not, why did it die? Sid, why “if .. would”? Does it work? Has it been announced / used? If not, why did it die?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-180 Anonymous Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:17:34 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-180 <p>I created a similar meta-commenting system called <a href="http://gojot.com" rel="nofollow">GoJot</a> last year. It was a fun project, and I spent a great deal of time meditating on this idea that co/myComment tackles.</p> <p>If I were to make another run at it, I wouldn't put such a burden on users as installing a bookmarklet and then forcing them to use it all the time. Fine for geeks, but too much for Joe User.</p> <p>Instead, I would create a comment search engine that:</p> <ol> <li><p>Reads comment RSS where provided, and</p></li> <li><p>Scrapes comments from pages w/o comment RSS.</p></li> </ol> <p>I would take this data and present it many ways to the world: by blog (shows articles), by article (shows threads), and by user (shows comments w/ links to articles and blogs). No login required.</p> <p>FWIW-</p> <p>Sid</p> I created a similar meta-commenting system called GoJot last year. It was a fun project, and I spent a great deal of time meditating on this idea that co/myComment tackles.

If I were to make another run at it, I wouldn’t put such a burden on users as installing a bookmarklet and then forcing them to use it all the time. Fine for geeks, but too much for Joe User.

Instead, I would create a comment search engine that:

  1. Reads comment RSS where provided, and

  2. Scrapes comments from pages w/o comment RSS.

I would take this data and present it many ways to the world: by blog (shows articles), by article (shows threads), and by user (shows comments w/ links to articles and blogs). No login required.

FWIW-

Sid

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-179 Anonymous Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:10 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-179 We've been fighting a similar battle with our <a href="http://www.myhomepoint.com/" rel="nofollow">calendar</a>. Granted, we had purposefully flying under the radar for a long time because we never felt we were quite ready. And, we have a different focus: family vs. technorati crowd; so we don't have quite the Wow! factor. However, with the influx of other applications (calendar and other-wise) being rolled out under the "beta" banner with incomplete and broken functionality, we are changing our approach and have decided that any visibility is good and we will adjust accordingly. Our application is definitely better than some that we've seen get publicity lately (not specifically in the calendar realm). It's definitely a 'who you know' thing that gets you in the door, regardless of how good or bad your product is. So, rather than just reading this post, I'm posting hoping to expand our network of people we know. We’ve been fighting a similar battle with our calendar. Granted, we had purposefully flying under the radar for a long time because we never felt we were quite ready. And, we have a different focus: family vs. technorati crowd; so we don’t have quite the Wow! factor. However, with the influx of other applications (calendar and other-wise) being rolled out under the “beta” banner with incomplete and broken functionality, we are changing our approach and have decided that any visibility is good and we will adjust accordingly. Our application is definitely better than some that we’ve seen get publicity lately (not specifically in the calendar realm).

It’s definitely a ‘who you know’ thing that gets you in the door, regardless of how good or bad your product is. So, rather than just reading this post, I’m posting hoping to expand our network of people we know.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-178 Anonymous Wed, 08 Feb 2006 12:46:28 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2006/02/08/cocomment-or-mycomments/#comment-178 the coCo guys definitively demonstrated they had the buzzier skills. BUT, I think the key feature is not the way how our comments are caught (automatically with mycomments vs coComment button to click). For the moment coComment is very well named in that sense it means "between commenters within the same coComment community" or what we (bloggers) need is something which will catch <strong>ALL COMMENTS</strong> no matter the following commenters did subscribe or not! the coCo guys definitively demonstrated they had the buzzier skills.

BUT, I think the key feature is not the way how our comments are caught (automatically with mycomments vs coComment button to click).

For the moment coComment is very well named in that sense it means “between commenters within the same coComment community” or what we (bloggers) need is something which will catch ALL COMMENTS no matter the following commenters did subscribe or not!

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