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	<title>Comments on: iGoogle, but Which One? Time to Fix the Google Apps Chaos&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-18622</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>October 2009 and still not fixed! I either have to use an apps account and a gmail account or have some dreadful have functioning google account with my apps e-mail, but the links to mail, calendar and docs don&#039;t work (it tries to take me to gmail/gcal and not my apps mail/calendar which is entirely separate).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stop being thick and sort it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>October 2009 and still not fixed! I either have to use an apps account and a gmail account or have some dreadful have functioning google account with my apps e-mail, but the links to mail, calendar and docs don&#39;t work (it tries to take me to gmail/gcal and not my apps mail/calendar which is entirely separate).</p>
<p>Stop being thick and sort it out!</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-16820</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathan lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just signed up for the Apps, I&#039;m really suprised that its not as useful as the free offering. The Sites part could be great but what is missing is that killer gadget - the ability to see the mail hitting your own domain email address. Its the same functionality that you get for free with iGoogle and what makes iGoogle a much more useful tool. If Google could create that gadget for an Apps domain then they might have cracked it for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just signed up for the Apps, I&#8217;m really suprised that its not as useful as the free offering. The Sites part could be great but what is missing is that killer gadget &#8211; the ability to see the mail hitting your own domain email address. Its the same functionality that you get for free with iGoogle and what makes iGoogle a much more useful tool. If Google could create that gadget for an Apps domain then they might have cracked it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross G</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-14737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>January 2009. Still not fixed. I&#039;ve been using GAFYD for over a year now, and am generally a big Google fan, but am getting more and more annoyed that Google don&#039;t see fit to sort this stuff out. It&#039;s like they started GAFYD with the right intentions... and then lost interest. C&#039;mon Google, wake up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>January 2009. Still not fixed. I&#8217;ve been using GAFYD for over a year now, and am generally a big Google fan, but am getting more and more annoyed that Google don&#8217;t see fit to sort this stuff out. It&#8217;s like they started GAFYD with the right intentions&#8230; and then lost interest. C&#8217;mon Google, wake up!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Schnitzer</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-14236</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Schnitzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody hell.  It&#039;s now nearly November of 2008 and all of these issues are still present.  I just discovered Google Apps and thought it looked super-promising.  But I&#039;ve been having a hard time conceptually reconciling it with my regular Gmail/Reader/etc account... and it appears to be Google is having the same problem.

Bummer.

I guess I&#039;m sticking with regular Gmail for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody hell.  It&#8217;s now nearly November of 2008 and all of these issues are still present.  I just discovered Google Apps and thought it looked super-promising.  But I&#8217;ve been having a hard time conceptually reconciling it with my regular Gmail/Reader/etc account&#8230; and it appears to be Google is having the same problem.</p>
<p>Bummer.</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m sticking with regular Gmail for now.</p>
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		<title>By: DeveloperZen &#124; Google Applications for your Domain - Does it Measure Up to Expectations?</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-13113</link>
		<dc:creator>DeveloperZen &#124; Google Applications for your Domain - Does it Measure Up to Expectations?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like I&#8217;m not the only one suffering here as Zoli posted about his Google Apps troubles [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like I&#8217;m not the only one suffering here as Zoli posted about his Google Apps troubles [...]</p>
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		<title>By: poker run</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-12181</link>
		<dc:creator>poker run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, friends, for your sharing your ideas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, friends, for your sharing your ideas</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-12140</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander, I thought it was more or less &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fixed &lt;/a&gt;for a while now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander, I thought it was more or less <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/" rel="nofollow">fixed </a>for a while now.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-12138</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s now summer, and it&#039;s still not fixed. And it probably will not be fixed in the near future either. The whole Google Apps thing is really a lousy schizophrenic service. You expect more, you receive less. You waste a couple of hours of configurating and then waste a bunch more out of annoyance. I used to be quite a fan of Google, but am moving to other services right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s now summer, and it&#8217;s still not fixed. And it probably will not be fixed in the near future either. The whole Google Apps thing is really a lousy schizophrenic service. You expect more, you receive less. You waste a couple of hours of configurating and then waste a bunch more out of annoyance. I used to be quite a fan of Google, but am moving to other services right now.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidW</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-8192</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the chaos goes on. 

As of Jan, 2008 most if not all of the above remains a challenge.  I wouldn&#039;t mind this if it wasn&#039;t for the fact that the paid version is considerably behind the free version of a Google Account. Anyone thinking of upgrading to premiere should wait till they get the bugs fixed.

You should be able to migrate your old gmail account with no problem, but getting old emails to move isn&#039;t going to happen easily for you.  If you want to use widgets for Google Calendar etc on your start page, good luck.

The thing I most wanted was to get to use gmail with my  domain name and I can do that, but you loose a lot if you&#039;re accustomed to using a personalized google home page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the chaos goes on. </p>
<p>As of Jan, 2008 most if not all of the above remains a challenge.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind this if it wasn&#8217;t for the fact that the paid version is considerably behind the free version of a Google Account. Anyone thinking of upgrading to premiere should wait till they get the bugs fixed.</p>
<p>You should be able to migrate your old gmail account with no problem, but getting old emails to move isn&#8217;t going to happen easily for you.  If you want to use widgets for Google Calendar etc on your start page, good luck.</p>
<p>The thing I most wanted was to get to use gmail with my  domain name and I can do that, but you loose a lot if you&#8217;re accustomed to using a personalized google home page.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2007/05/01/igoogle-but-which-one-time-to-fix-the-google-apps-chaos/#comment-7838</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *want* to use Google Apps for my new site, but Google is making it incredibly difficult.

First, there&#039;s no migration process from regular Gmail.  I upgraded to the Premier package, and there was no support doc that showed how to move Gmail email over to Googl Apps -- I figured it out, but its slow (about 2GB of mail has taken 36 hours to transer 72% thus far) and all of Gmail&#039;s &quot;special&quot; folders havent transferred over to the proper locations (Sent Mail, Drafts, All Mail, etc...they&#039;re all just labels, so I&#039;ll have to use IMAP to fix it later).

Second, why the hell don&#039;t Google App accounts automatically sync to a Google Account?  If I try to login to my Google App account at gmail.com (name@domain.com), it prompts me to create a new Gmail.  Google Reader, my 2nd most used app after Gmail, doesnt even have a Google App version.

Zoli, you&#039;re right...if they just fixed the Google Account issue, it would go a long way to solving a lot of issues.  For example, then Google Apps users would be able to use the special Google page on an iPhone.  Right now, its clear that Google&#039;s priorities lie with the consumer version of its apps, not those who are actually PAYING to use them.

There&#039;s some serious issues here, and I&#039;m not sure I want to take the full plunge just yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *want* to use Google Apps for my new site, but Google is making it incredibly difficult.</p>
<p>First, there&#8217;s no migration process from regular Gmail.  I upgraded to the Premier package, and there was no support doc that showed how to move Gmail email over to Googl Apps &#8212; I figured it out, but its slow (about 2GB of mail has taken 36 hours to transer 72% thus far) and all of Gmail&#8217;s &#8220;special&#8221; folders havent transferred over to the proper locations (Sent Mail, Drafts, All Mail, etc&#8230;they&#8217;re all just labels, so I&#8217;ll have to use IMAP to fix it later).</p>
<p>Second, why the hell don&#8217;t Google App accounts automatically sync to a Google Account?  If I try to login to my Google App account at gmail.com (name@domain.com), it prompts me to create a new Gmail.  Google Reader, my 2nd most used app after Gmail, doesnt even have a Google App version.</p>
<p>Zoli, you&#8217;re right&#8230;if they just fixed the Google Account issue, it would go a long way to solving a lot of issues.  For example, then Google Apps users would be able to use the special Google page on an iPhone.  Right now, its clear that Google&#8217;s priorities lie with the consumer version of its apps, not those who are actually PAYING to use them.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some serious issues here, and I&#8217;m not sure I want to take the full plunge just yet.</p>
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