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	<title>Comments on: Google Apps and Account Chaos Fixed (More or Less)</title>
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		<title>By: Pro Tip: Fix your Google Account after Gmail &#171; apocryph.org</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18949</link>
		<dc:creator>Pro Tip: Fix your Google Account after Gmail &#171; apocryph.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] found out about it thanks to this article, which also notes that if you add secondary email addresses to your Google Account, you can also [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] found out about it thanks to this article, which also notes that if you add secondary email addresses to your Google Account, you can also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18829</link>
		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post, that got me mostly straightened out, I think, at least as far as linking things like YouTube, Google Reader, Blogger, and Google Analytics to my Apps account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post, that got me mostly straightened out, I think, at least as far as linking things like YouTube, Google Reader, Blogger, and Google Analytics to my Apps account.</p>
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		<title>By: Wechsel zu Google Apps &#124; Sebastian Bauer (IT-Blog)</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18747</link>
		<dc:creator>Wechsel zu Google Apps &#124; Sebastian Bauer (IT-Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 12:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Versuch die Dienste miteinander zu verbinden beschreibt Zoli Erdos.   Share [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Versuch die Dienste miteinander zu verbinden beschreibt Zoli Erdos.   Share [...]</p>
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		<title>By: waveguerilla</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18646</link>
		<dc:creator>waveguerilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

You forgot one important thing.

Google Apps is not for a single account but for multiple users of the same domain so there can be 10, 100, 1000 or more users for only one Google Apps account. Either can have mail, docs, calendar... So Google Apps is for a company.

But I understand the need to combien personal gmail to a Google Apps account that contains only one user. I need it too :p

Bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>You forgot one important thing.</p>
<p>Google Apps is not for a single account but for multiple users of the same domain so there can be 10, 100, 1000 or more users for only one Google Apps account. Either can have mail, docs, calendar&#8230; So Google Apps is for a company.</p>
<p>But I understand the need to combien personal gmail to a Google Apps account that contains only one user. I need it too :p</p>
<p>Bye</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18621</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not sure I can delete my old gmail account as I&#039;ve got too many things still going to it, its all forwarding to my apps e-mail.  I just want everything to work! I set up a new google account using my apps email but I have got no calendar, docs or mail unless I log back in through the proper apps link.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t belive all those intelligent people at Google can&#039;t create a simple solution! It can&#039;t be that hard.  Perhaps they just don&#039;t care :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#39;m not sure I can delete my old gmail account as I&#39;ve got too many things still going to it, its all forwarding to my apps e-mail.  I just want everything to work! I set up a new google account using my apps email but I have got no calendar, docs or mail unless I log back in through the proper apps link.</p>
<p>I can&#39;t belive all those intelligent people at Google can&#39;t create a simple solution! It can&#39;t be that hard.  Perhaps they just don&#39;t care <img src='http://www.zoliblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jens Brogaard</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18396</link>
		<dc:creator>Jens Brogaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding iGoogle - not supported in Apps!: http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=46798
Really can&#039;t understand their strategy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding iGoogle &#8211; not supported in Apps!: <a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=46798" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=46798</a><br />
Really can&#8217;t understand their strategy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Sumption</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18384</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Sumption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;ve been struggling with this problem for 3 years now - prompted to try and fix it again by the fact that I now have an Android phone, and half of the apps on it use my Apps account, the other half my googlemail account. So I was hopeful that your instructions might finally help me unite the two.

Sadly not to be though - I followed your instructions, but when I try to delete the GMail part of my googlemail account using https://www.google.com/accounts/DeleteMailServiceConfirm I enter my Google Apps email as the &quot;new email address&quot; and it give me the error &quot;A user with the email you specified already exists&quot; - it even gives me a link to a help page explaining how I remove my Google Apps email so that I can carry on using the googlemail (sheesh!)

Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been struggling with this problem for 3 years now &#8211; prompted to try and fix it again by the fact that I now have an Android phone, and half of the apps on it use my Apps account, the other half my googlemail account. So I was hopeful that your instructions might finally help me unite the two.</p>
<p>Sadly not to be though &#8211; I followed your instructions, but when I try to delete the GMail part of my googlemail account using <a href="https://www.google.com/accounts/DeleteMailServiceConfirm" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/accounts/DeleteMailServiceConfirm</a> I enter my Google Apps email as the &#8220;new email address&#8221; and it give me the error &#8220;A user with the email you specified already exists&#8221; &#8211; it even gives me a link to a help page explaining how I remove my Google Apps email so that I can carry on using the googlemail (sheesh!)</p>
<p>Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Gmail Migration Tools Attack Inertia &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-17533</link>
		<dc:creator>Gmail Migration Tools Attack Inertia &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] world view of one user = one gmail account.&#160; That is simply not true, and while the initial Google Account vs Gmail Account chaos got more or less resolved, it’s popping up its ugly head again: with Google going social, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] world view of one user = one gmail account.&nbsp; That is simply not true, and while the initial Google Account vs Gmail Account chaos got more or less resolved, it’s popping up its ugly head again: with Google going social, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-17431</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t google just introduce a domain name system into Google Accounts - they could even put the &#039;purchase domain name&#039; link all over google and make money out of it...

I&#039;d just like Google Accounts to be able to take over the redirection of my domain name...

Is this overly simplistic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t google just introduce a domain name system into Google Accounts &#8211; they could even put the &#8216;purchase domain name&#8217; link all over google and make money out of it&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like Google Accounts to be able to take over the redirection of my domain name&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this overly simplistic?</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Warberg</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-14444</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Warberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ted

Your Google Apps and normal Google accounts are two separate accounts.

I would prefer my Google Apps account to be a superset of a normal Google account, however it is not. If it were, you would be able to login to iGoogle using your Apps account.

Unfortunately Apps is missing things like iGoogle (replaced by nerfed start.your-domain.com) and bookmarks. 

Google chose to copy over only some features from normal Google to Apps eg. calendar and docs &amp; spreadsheats.

The bottom line is that you need two accounts to get the whole package ie. a normal Google account and your Google Apps account. What Zoli propose here is to create the normal Google account using the e-mail address matching your Apps account (and *not* establish a mailbox for the normal account).

However, having to use two separate breaks certain things, even though your &quot;username&quot; is the same e-mail address, yourname@your-domain.com.

For instance I cannot use the Google Toolbar to access my bookmarks (from my normal Google account) and at the same time check my mail.

The dual identities also confuses due to the functional overlap. For instance how do I decide where to put my docs &amp; spreadsheets? They can reside in either account.

I hope some day Google will give the option to merge normal and Apps accounts, whose primary e-mail address are identical.

Best regards,
Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ted</p>
<p>Your Google Apps and normal Google accounts are two separate accounts.</p>
<p>I would prefer my Google Apps account to be a superset of a normal Google account, however it is not. If it were, you would be able to login to iGoogle using your Apps account.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Apps is missing things like iGoogle (replaced by nerfed start.your-domain.com) and bookmarks. </p>
<p>Google chose to copy over only some features from normal Google to Apps eg. calendar and docs &amp; spreadsheats.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that you need two accounts to get the whole package ie. a normal Google account and your Google Apps account. What Zoli propose here is to create the normal Google account using the e-mail address matching your Apps account (and *not* establish a mailbox for the normal account).</p>
<p>However, having to use two separate breaks certain things, even though your &#8220;username&#8221; is the same e-mail address, <a href="mailto:yourname@your-domain.com">yourname@your-domain.com</a>.</p>
<p>For instance I cannot use the Google Toolbar to access my bookmarks (from my normal Google account) and at the same time check my mail.</p>
<p>The dual identities also confuses due to the functional overlap. For instance how do I decide where to put my docs &amp; spreadsheets? They can reside in either account.</p>
<p>I hope some day Google will give the option to merge normal and Apps accounts, whose primary e-mail address are identical.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Andreas</p>
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