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	<title>Comments on: Google Apps and Account Chaos Fixed (More or Less)</title>
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		<title>By: Aragorn</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-25288</link>
		<dc:creator>Aragorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 16:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems Google+ made the nightmare return..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems Google+ made the nightmare return&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jesiel</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-20852</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 12:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the updates! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the updates!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-20323</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  It&#039;s so reassuring to see people smarter than me struggling with the same issues.  I have the gmail account and the apps account, both use the same email address and as a consequence I&#039;m getting all the confusing issues described herein.  I would like to completely delete the gmail account and access my email strictly through apps, but the dire warning about losing all data scares me.  I have all the emails i need saved in my apps email, so if I completely delete and shut down the gmail account with same email address, will that cause all apps emails to be likewise deleted? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  It&#039;s so reassuring to see people smarter than me struggling with the same issues.  I have the gmail account and the apps account, both use the same email address and as a consequence I&#039;m getting all the confusing issues described herein.  I would like to completely delete the gmail account and access my email strictly through apps, but the dire warning about losing all data scares me.  I have all the emails i need saved in my apps email, so if I completely delete and shut down the gmail account with same email address, will that cause all apps emails to be likewise deleted?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon R Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-20312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon R Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too bad they don&#039;t just allow Google App&#039;s Accounts the ability to become Google Accounts. Usernames would still all be unique, so merging all user@domain.com&#039;s with username@gmail.com shouldn&#039;t be an issue. Then everyone could log in to wave, reader, etc. My main issue stems from the popularity of my name (Jon Wilson), which prevented me 5 years ago from creating a &quot;professional&quot; @gmail.com name (all variations of jon, jonathan, robert, and wilson were already taken). 
 
More recently I got a domain and installed google apps, but still have and need my original gmail address, which currently forwards to my apps account. 
 
At some point in time they must realize that there are a finite number of meaningful &quot;@gmail.com&quot; usernames, and allow app accounts the ability to use the additional services. 
 
I wonder what is preventing them from allowing domain users the ability to use all the normal google account features/web programs? (technical difficulty? money? lack of demand?) 
 
I look forward to your 2010 update! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s too bad they don&#039;t just allow Google App&#039;s Accounts the ability to become Google Accounts. Usernames would still all be unique, so merging all <a href="mailto:user@domain.com">user@domain.com</a>&#039;s with <a href="mailto:username@gmail.com">username@gmail.com</a> shouldn&#039;t be an issue. Then everyone could log in to wave, reader, etc. My main issue stems from the popularity of my name (Jon Wilson), which prevented me 5 years ago from creating a &quot;professional&quot; @gmail.com name (all variations of jon, jonathan, robert, and wilson were already taken). </p>
<p>More recently I got a domain and installed google apps, but still have and need my original gmail address, which currently forwards to my apps account. </p>
<p>At some point in time they must realize that there are a finite number of meaningful &quot;@gmail.com&quot; usernames, and allow app accounts the ability to use the additional services. </p>
<p>I wonder what is preventing them from allowing domain users the ability to use all the normal google account features/web programs? (technical difficulty? money? lack of demand?) </p>
<p>I look forward to your 2010 update!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-20289</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google changed things around authentication a few months ago, and the above &quot;solution&quot; is breaking down in several places.  While obviously never a true solution, it was a decent workaround... now it looks Google is forcing users to split their identities between a branded (own domain) and gmail.com instance.  Not good ... will do an update post soon. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google changed things around authentication a few months ago, and the above &quot;solution&quot; is breaking down in several places.  While obviously never a true solution, it was a decent workaround&#8230; now it looks Google is forcing users to split their identities between a branded (own domain) and gmail.com instance.  Not good &#8230; will do an update post soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Coté&#39;s People Over Process &#187; Google Buzz in Google Buzz &#8211; Quick Analysis</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-20288</link>
		<dc:creator>Coté&#39;s People Over Process &#187; Google Buzz in Google Buzz &#8211; Quick Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apps with email, docs, analytics, Wave, Voice, etc.). Bouncing between these two identities is tedious and does weird things. Like, I have to logout of Google Reader (personal identity) to access my RedMonk Google Analytics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apps with email, docs, analytics, Wave, Voice, etc.). Bouncing between these two identities is tedious and does weird things. Like, I have to logout of Google Reader (personal identity) to access my RedMonk Google Analytics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Taferner</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-20287</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Taferner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone share what happens to contacts when following the directions from this article? Will I still have to maintain two sets of contacts or do my Google Apps contacts integrate into other non GAFYD apps such Google Voice, Google Wave and Google Talk? How does it affect the newly launched Google Buzz? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone share what happens to contacts when following the directions from this article? Will I still have to maintain two sets of contacts or do my Google Apps contacts integrate into other non GAFYD apps such Google Voice, Google Wave and Google Talk? How does it affect the newly launched Google Buzz?</p>
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		<title>By: Fad</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-19915</link>
		<dc:creator>Fad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info.  The most depressing thing is the date: January 20th, 2008.  Almost two years have gone by, and we still can&#039;t change the primary address from a Gmail account to a Google Apps email account.

I can&#039;t delete my Gmail account.  It will take months of watching incoming emails to determine that I really have informed everybody of the new address - including the hundreds of people and organisations I&#039;ve been in contact with over a long period.  It&#039;s depressing really.  I just have to suck it up.

I can&#039;t think of a more disappointing experience with Google since I began using their services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.  The most depressing thing is the date: January 20th, 2008.  Almost two years have gone by, and we still can&#8217;t change the primary address from a Gmail account to a Google Apps email account.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t delete my Gmail account.  It will take months of watching incoming emails to determine that I really have informed everybody of the new address &#8211; including the hundreds of people and organisations I&#8217;ve been in contact with over a long period.  It&#8217;s depressing really.  I just have to suck it up.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of a more disappointing experience with Google since I began using their services.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro Tip: Fix your Google Account after Gmail &#171; apocryph.org</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18949</link>
		<dc:creator>Pro Tip: Fix your Google Account after Gmail &#171; apocryph.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] found out about it thanks to this article, which also notes that if you add secondary email addresses to your Google Account, you can also [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] found out about it thanks to this article, which also notes that if you add secondary email addresses to your Google Account, you can also [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/20/google-apps-and-account-chaos-almost-fixed/#comment-18829</link>
		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post, that got me mostly straightened out, I think, at least as far as linking things like YouTube, Google Reader, Blogger, and Google Analytics to my Apps account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post, that got me mostly straightened out, I think, at least as far as linking things like YouTube, Google Reader, Blogger, and Google Analytics to my Apps account.</p>
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