http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/ Connecting the dots ... Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:03:39 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-11299 onepersonsopinion Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:01:23 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-11299 One cannot touch this market without seasoned political experience and an insiders understanding of all the various stakeholders' interests. Unfortunately, one cannot travel down this path if one is unprepared to learn some very unpleasant realities while getting "muddied" along the way. sorry, but it just ain't what it seems. One cannot touch this market without seasoned political experience and an insiders understanding of all the various stakeholders’ interests. Unfortunately, one cannot travel down this path if one is unprepared to learn some very unpleasant realities while getting “muddied” along the way. sorry, but it just ain’t what it seems.

]]> http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-8443 Blog.OnlinePrimary.us » Is OnlinePrimary.us a "Showcase of Naivete?" Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:53:59 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-8443 [...] Erdos, having read about OnlinePrimary on ReadWriteWeb, has branded it a “showcase of naivete.” An excerpt: I think the critical issues all boil down to these [...] [...] Erdos, having read about OnlinePrimary on ReadWriteWeb, has branded it a “showcase of naivete.” An excerpt: I think the critical issues all boil down to these [...]

]]> http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-8439 Jim Edlin Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:15:27 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-8439 You raise a fair issue, Zoli. But it's not naivete that has kept OnlinePrimary.us from addressing the issues of voter identification and non-duplication. It's lack of ability to leverage the machinery of the state. In the OLP illustration, one must assume the ID and non-duplication problem could and would be solved (as Adam suggests) via some state-assigned unique and non-predictable ID at the time of voter registration. (I use UUIDs in the OnlinePrimary illustration, but assign them at the time of voting rather than in a preliminary registration step.) A more troublesome design issue for me is preserving the auditability of the system while strictly separating the voter's unique ID from the votes cast by that ID. The intent of OnlinePrimary is to stimulate community dialogue on how to solve such issues as you raise, not to present a fait-acompli solution (though I'd love to present one if I had it all figured out). You raise a fair issue, Zoli. But it’s not naivete that has kept OnlinePrimary.us from addressing the issues of voter identification and non-duplication. It’s lack of ability to leverage the machinery of the state. In the OLP illustration, one must assume the ID and non-duplication problem could and would be solved (as Adam suggests) via some state-assigned unique and non-predictable ID at the time of voter registration. (I use UUIDs in the OnlinePrimary illustration, but assign them at the time of voting rather than in a preliminary registration step.) A more troublesome design issue for me is preserving the auditability of the system while strictly separating the voter’s unique ID from the votes cast by that ID. The intent of OnlinePrimary is to stimulate community dialogue on how to solve such issues as you raise, not to present a fait-acompli solution (though I’d love to present one if I had it all figured out).

]]> http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-8435 Adam Pieniazek Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:42:58 +0000 http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/01/30/onlineprimary-a-showcase-of-naivete/#comment-8435 I agree Zoli, the biggest problem is identification. However, once identification is solved, then voting twice is easier to get a handle on (make sure ID doesn't vote twice) and there'll always be fraud attempts. At least with a web-based voting platform we could potentially release the vote tallies to the public in real-time to show there was no fraud. I agree Zoli, the biggest problem is identification. However, once identification is solved, then voting twice is easier to get a handle on (make sure ID doesn’t vote twice) and there’ll always be fraud attempts. At least with a web-based voting platform we could potentially release the vote tallies to the public in real-time to show there was no fraud.

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