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	<title>Comments on: Apple vs. Windows Pricing: It&#8217;s All About TCO</title>
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		<title>By: grapeapester</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-18518</link>
		<dc:creator>grapeapester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right the hassle of just running a Vista PC is just not worth it, back to mac next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right the hassle of just running a Vista PC is just not worth it, back to mac next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dickey</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13928</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Dickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Roland Hesz:

True. But I&#039;d say used Mac kit compares favorably to new Windows machines - any individual purely-local task may be marginally slower, but the entire system will be far more stable and usable (and thereby cost-effective, especially if you value your time).

I continued to use my 1996-era Power Tower Pro 225 on a daily basis until the motherboard failed last year. (Try doing that with a 1996-era Windows PC.) I&#039;ve historically made most of my living from Windows software and systems work - but for the last 3-4 years, Windows is the last thing I use when I just want to get something *done*. When I was a young man, and had hair, I enjoyed &quot;outsmarting&quot; various MS software packages, making them work more-or-less the way I wanted and learning the deep internals. Now that I have other important things to do with my life, I can&#039;t be bothered. I got Vista on a &quot;free&quot; Lenovo laptop when I signed up for DSL service here (Singapore); two days after unboxing it, I had Ubuntu dual-booting on it, and have started Windows less than 20 times in the last 15 months. Linux at least lets you see and control what&#039;s going on, but it still fails the &#039;It Just Works&#039; test. TCO, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roland Hesz:</p>
<p>True. But I&#8217;d say used Mac kit compares favorably to new Windows machines &#8211; any individual purely-local task may be marginally slower, but the entire system will be far more stable and usable (and thereby cost-effective, especially if you value your time).</p>
<p>I continued to use my 1996-era Power Tower Pro 225 on a daily basis until the motherboard failed last year. (Try doing that with a 1996-era Windows PC.) I&#8217;ve historically made most of my living from Windows software and systems work &#8211; but for the last 3-4 years, Windows is the last thing I use when I just want to get something *done*. When I was a young man, and had hair, I enjoyed &#8220;outsmarting&#8221; various MS software packages, making them work more-or-less the way I wanted and learning the deep internals. Now that I have other important things to do with my life, I can&#8217;t be bothered. I got Vista on a &#8220;free&#8221; Lenovo laptop when I signed up for DSL service here (Singapore); two days after unboxing it, I had Ubuntu dual-booting on it, and have started Windows less than 20 times in the last 15 months. Linux at least lets you see and control what&#8217;s going on, but it still fails the &#8216;It Just Works&#8217; test. TCO, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Irregular Enterprise mobile edition</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13888</link>
		<dc:creator>Irregular Enterprise mobile edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cost is an order of magnitude more expensive than Windows machines but as my Irregular colleague Zoli Erdos said last month: I started to chronicle the hassle of just running a Vista PC and dealing with random, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cost is an order of magnitude more expensive than Windows machines but as my Irregular colleague Zoli Erdos said last month: I started to chronicle the hassle of just running a Vista PC and dealing with random, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Hesz</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13211</link>
		<dc:creator>Roland Hesz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s true that a Windows machine is not really cheaper than a Mac machine.
The problem is that there is NO low end machine for Mac.
I can start with 500USD, then gradually, as I have money improve it. 
With Mac I just have to shell out the 2000USD at once. Or more, if I don&#039;t want the cheapest Mac.
(Yes, here it starts at around 2000USD.) 
So for me Mac is not an option. Not to mention that the Mac service here is the worst you can find. And costs a lot. 

I have to note though, that I have 0 problems with Windows, a bit more with Linux and only know 2 people who owns Mac - one of them returned it after about 4 months, he could not cope with the continues crashing and freezing. You know, the faulty series they had to recall for overheating all the time. 

So, all in all, as far as I am concerned they are the same quality and price, Mac is better for music and graphics, Windows for gaming and general usage, Linux for practicing command line stuff. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s true that a Windows machine is not really cheaper than a Mac machine.<br />
The problem is that there is NO low end machine for Mac.<br />
I can start with 500USD, then gradually, as I have money improve it.<br />
With Mac I just have to shell out the 2000USD at once. Or more, if I don&#8217;t want the cheapest Mac.<br />
(Yes, here it starts at around 2000USD.)<br />
So for me Mac is not an option. Not to mention that the Mac service here is the worst you can find. And costs a lot. </p>
<p>I have to note though, that I have 0 problems with Windows, a bit more with Linux and only know 2 people who owns Mac &#8211; one of them returned it after about 4 months, he could not cope with the continues crashing and freezing. You know, the faulty series they had to recall for overheating all the time. </p>
<p>So, all in all, as far as I am concerned they are the same quality and price, Mac is better for music and graphics, Windows for gaming and general usage, Linux for practicing command line stuff. <img src='http://www.zoliblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Assaf</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13209</link>
		<dc:creator>Assaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we counted passion as a feature.  Which brand would be cheaper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we counted passion as a feature.  Which brand would be cheaper?</p>
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		<title>By: Partners in Grime</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13194</link>
		<dc:creator>Partners in Grime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 24-inch aluminum iMac makes me smile ... even when it&#039;s off. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 24-inch aluminum iMac makes me smile &#8230; even when it&#8217;s off. <img src='http://www.zoliblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Assaf</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13185</link>
		<dc:creator>Assaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good link Rich.  I&#039;m not nearly as methodological as Tom&#039;s hardware, but I replace once a year, and every time I research, Macs are about the same as the equivalent PC.

I don&#039;t understand the Eee either.  I&#039;m either carrying a backpack which fits a 13&quot; notebook, or just enough pocket space for a phone.  It&#039;s neither here nor there, and not even a tablet you can curl in bed with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good link Rich.  I&#8217;m not nearly as methodological as Tom&#8217;s hardware, but I replace once a year, and every time I research, Macs are about the same as the equivalent PC.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand the Eee either.  I&#8217;m either carrying a backpack which fits a 13&#8243; notebook, or just enough pocket space for a phone.  It&#8217;s neither here nor there, and not even a tablet you can curl in bed with.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13182</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.tuaw.com/2008/08/07/toms-hardware-says-apple-and-pc-prices-are-equivalent/</description>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, IMHO too small, but cheap, which seems to be the primary factor here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, IMHO too small, but cheap, which seems to be the primary factor here.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoli Erdos</title>
		<link>http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/08/06/apple-vs-windows-pricing-its-all-about-tco/#comment-13172</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoli Erdos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about the eee, I actually tried the very first one. It lasted for a day - turned out to be completely useless for the Web. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/04/02/asus-eee-pc-size-matters/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Size matters&lt;/a&gt;, after all ...
&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about the eee, I actually tried the very first one. It lasted for a day &#8211; turned out to be completely useless for the Web. <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/04/02/asus-eee-pc-size-matters/" rel="nofollow">Size matters</a>, after all &#8230;<br /></p>
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