Who Says Enterprise Software Isn’t Sexy? Ok, Just Cool…
Enterprise Software October 12th, 2010
SAP Business ByDesign Video – Plain and Simple, Making Fun of …Wow, ERP!
Enterprise Software, SaaS July 18th, 2010
We’re just having an intense internal debate in the Enterprise Irregulars group whether SAP’s Business ByDesign (ByD) is late to the market and what it all means, when hot off the press here’s a promotional video, that’s not so much ByD advertising but a SMB / SME SaaS 101, and a very good one at that (now, that was a mouthful of acronyms
).
Ironically, the video makes fun of the Big Ugly Beast, ERP – which happens to be SAP’s bread and butter. (Hey, I’ve long been saying SAP should have copied a chapter from Larry Ellison’s book, invest in a SMB Startup and let it grow independently…)
Hat tip for the video: Timo Elliot.
See our (more serious) Business ByDesign coverage here.
Tags: business bydesign, byd, CloudAve, Enterprise Software, erp, Humor, marketing, SaaS, sap, smb, sme, video
Enterprise Software Strategy
Enterprise Software, Humor May 21st, 2010
NetSuite vs SAP … Round #n. A Game Changer?
Enterprise Software, SaaS, SMB / SME May 18th, 2010
In my recent Suites post I said there were exactly 1.5 (one and a half) integrated full business solutions (SaaS Suite, SaaS All-In-One, SaaS ERP, SaaS SMB ERP – take your pick or create a new one) offered as a service. The one in that equation was NetSuite, and the half is SAP’s Business ByDesign.
The half is getting close to becoming full, bringing the total number of solutions to two. SAP’s ByD, originally launched in 2007 was a functionally rich solution already at launch – in fact I called it the most complete SaaS Suite not available customers. And therein lies the rub. Functionally rich, but a phantom product that only a few selected early customers could get their hands on. And it wasn’t simply a marketing / segmentation blunder as some analyst thought, it was all about architecture: SAP missed out on the economics of multi-tenancy, and realized they could not profitably operate and scale what they referred to as “mega-tenancy” – so they went back re-architecting ByDesign.
The lost 2 1/2 years were a gift to competitor NetSuite, and they milked it every possible way. SAP announced entry to the SaaS SMB space validated their market, and their own delay was an open invitation to NetSuite. As CEO Zach Nelson said at their recent earnings conference:
I’d like to thank SAP for being our IBM.
NetSuite never shied away from aggressive marketing (I guess that’s the Oracle blood in their veins), starting from pranks like the SAP for the Rest of Us Party during SAPPHIRE 2006 to staging a shootout at the anti-SAP Conference or releasing edgy videos a’la Mac vs Windows. But the biggest coup, one with definite gains was the Business ByNetsuite program which we covered here:
The aptly named Business ByNetsuite program guarantees at least 50% savings to current SAP R/3 customers relative to – watch this! – the annual maintenance fees they are now paying to SAP. Yes, it’s not a price-to-price comparison. With the perpetual licence model customers pay upfront, but are still forced to pay annual maintenance fees – with SaaS there is only a subscription fee, and now NetSuite proves it can be half of only the maintenance component of traditional software’s TCO.
Yes, NetSuite took deals from SAP and of course amidst all the chest-thumping they did not particularly emphasize the fact that that these were often divisional deals: smaller divisions of large companies, often replacing legacy systems as a result of an acquisition with the parent company running SAP. NetSuite even developed NetSuite-to-SAP connectors for enterprise reporting, fully recognizing they won’t be replacing SAP on the corporate level.
Now of course these were relatively easy wins when NetSuite was the only game in town – and that’s about to change, as SAP is getting ready for General Availability of a new Business ByDesign in July. And SAP CEO Bill McDermott fired a few salvos over to NetSuite in his announcement, as quoted by Reuters:
McDermott said he believes Business by Design’s sales will be able to quickly surpass those of NetSuite, which last year posted $167 million in revenue.
“When Business by Design is coming at them like a 99-mile-an-hour fastball, let’s see how tough they are,” McDermott said of NetSuite.
Winning against SAP when they had no relevant SaaS offering was one thing, going up against a functionally strong product will be another. NetSuite is changing tone, comparing the two offerings, as show by this slide I received from NetSuite:
This must be the first time SAP finds themselves on the wrong side of the David vs. Goliath equation (or is it the elephant vs flea? – but who is the elephant and who is the flea in the long run?). I have an issue specifically re. the functional shootout, which was rigged at best.
As for the rest of the comparisons, a fair summary is that neither side is a newcomer. SAP is the granddaddy of business processes with 30 years of experience, but they are new to operating / scaling a cloud environment – something NetSuite has a head start on them.
I have reasons to believe (more on that in another post) ByD will not be a failure this time around, and NetSuite will have to adopt to competing with a real product vs. a phantom. It will be a healthy change, with customers now having a choice of (at least) two well integrated SaaS offerings. In the end, customers win.
(Keep an eye open for the next post on ByD and beyond…)
Tags: all-in-one, application suites, business bydesign, byd, CloudAve, Enterprise Software, erp, integrated suites, marketing, netsuite, On-Demand, SaaS, sap, saphirenow, software as a service
Are Suites Really Sour? The Best of Breed vs. Integrated Suite Debate.
Enterprise Software, ERP / CRM, SaaS April 14th, 2010
The evergreen Best-of-breed vs. Integrated All-in-One Suite debate is back again. This will be a somewhat long post, so let’s sit back and start with some entertainment first.
Episode 2, “Suites Are Sour” is from the mini-series SuiteMates, which I admit I find hilariously entertaining, albeit rather pointless. Why? It’s run by supply chain solution provider Kinaxis, but I don’t see much direct benefit to them. I’m reminded the Bill Gates – Seinfeld commercials: what’s the point? But hey, we’re being entertained:-)
Now, back to those Suites.. are all Suites really Sour? Fellow Enterprise Irregular Brian Summer clearly does not think so, his money is on the Suites, here’s why:
One of the biggest value drivers behind a customer’s move to SaaS is the reduced internal IT support cost a company has when using SaaS products. In the SaaS world, the vendor maintains the application not the customer. But, in a best of breed SaaS world, the customer is back to maintaining interfaces and integration aspects across a number of (SaaS) applications.
If the argument sounds familiar, it is – it was the same in the good old on-premise world, but much of it holds true in the Cloud, too. Besides, this isn’t simply Brian’s own opinion, he has conducted a poll of large corporate CIO’s and most expressed strong preference for integrated business solutions, a.k.a. “one throat to choke” (well, not exactly with those words…).
Call me “old school”, but I also believe in the value of having one tightly integrated system for most business needs, and I believe it’s true not only for large corporations but much smaller businesses. I don’t have CIO’s to back it up, but that’s exactly the point: I am talking about small businesses that don’t have CIO’s at all – in fact they likely don’t even have full time IT stuff ( a good reason for SaaS in the first place), so they clearly lack the bandwidth to deal with integration issues and multiple system providers.
This is not a popular view, after all the Millenial World View is all about open standards and APIs where best-of-breed cloud services that can seamlessly integrate and work together well. I’m all for innovation, and hope we will get there one day – but for now the existing examples are all one-off, individual integrations between specific systems, or at best, ecosystem “satellites” centered around force.com, the Google Apps Marketplace and the like. These are great solutions, but not enough to run a complete business on them. In the meantime businesses are looking for available (Cloud-based) solutions NOW. So yes, I admit, my view is less visionary, more constrained by market realities today.
Brian cites WorkDay as a potential SaaS Suite provider: they have the right DNA, coming from the Founder who built once-successful PeopleSoft, and they are building truly Millenial Software from the grounds up as Phil Wainwright eloquently points out – but for now they still have a Human Resources / Finance focus only. Far from a complete solution, just like the other successful SaaS players in the Enterprise arena, like SuccessFactors, RightNow, ServiceNow, and the like.
Yes, I hear you… I missed a big name: Salesforce.com, the GrandDaddy of SaaS or the Cloud or whatever the next fashionable name will be. An amazingly successful company, and true innovators – having started as CRM company, moving on to as Platform provider, and who knows, tomorrow it may be a Media company?
As long as the keep on moving to hot new areas, always picking the low-hanging fruit, the company and it’s stock price will remain hot. Again, a great company from an Investor’s point of view. Just not a Complete Business Solution.
One and a half SaaS Suite players
I can count the number of SaaS Business Suites that actually reached significant traction on one hand. In fact the exact number is 1.5. Yes, one and a half – and for now they mostly cater for the SMB segment, with undeniable ambitions to “grow up”.
The “One” in that 1.5 is NetSuite. Having started as NetLedger, the company has developed an integrated All-in-One solution, encompassing ERP, CRM, e-Commerce .. you name it. Those acronyms are becoming quite useless – in that respect I agree with Dennis Howlett who says we should “dump the disciplines formerly known as CRM/SCRM/SCM/ERP/3PL/HR/HCM/E2.0….etc” – hence I stick to the term All-in-One. Or Business Suite:-) It’s been a long (and winding?) road for NetSuite: developing a full suite of apps you can run a business on is by far more complex than throwing out point applications.
The company also learned the hard way that with business complexity (please note, I am not talking about Software, but Business complexity) comes a more difficult, stretched out sales process. The fact is, as much as I am a fan of the click-to-try-click-to-buy pull model, the more business areas (and stakeholders) are involved, the less feasible the fully pull model becomes. A Business Suite is not something you simply pick up from an App Store:-)
So NetSuite experimented with more direct sales model first, gradually building towards a more channel-based model, to the recently announced SP100 program in which partner VARs get the entire first year subscription revenue. Along the way they grew functional richness as well as market penetration, to the point that they often compete with Enterprise giant SAP directly. Now, let’s quickly qualify that: NetSuite is not comparable to the SAP Business Suite, but it is often an ideal satellite solution for smaller divisions of large companies, many of which just got acquired and are facing the choice of a long SAP implementation vs. a SaaS solution from NetSuite (see Ray Wang’s post on two-tier ERP strategy)
I should probably mention that way back, before their IPO and the fame that came with it (from the times of NetWho?) I was an early NetSuite customer, picking it over the market leading CRM (and I mean that as a stock symbol), simply because it had a better process flow, even for Sales, which I was heading at the time. (Yes, we got p***ed learning we’d have to create Sales Orders outside the other system, even though we had quotes in the system, only to come back and re-enter the data manually). NetSuite was simply a better CRM system, even before considering other business areas.
Parallel to our NetSuite implementation we introduced a Wiki, JotSpot, which just launched in those days (since acquired by Google) and soon we realized a lot of the support information for Sales could either reside in NetSuite or in the Wiki. This has been bugging me ever since:
Why do structured, process-oriented systems and unstructured collaboration tools live in different worlds?
Like I’ve said, I’m all for Suites, but the true Suite in my definition includes integrated collaboration and communication tools – I’m still waiting for that … perhaps not for long
Now, if NetSuite was the “one”, who is the “half”? It’s SAP’s very capable, but dormant Business ByDesign – which may just come to life later this year. But I’ve been torturing you long enough, so let’s leave that to another discussion.
Tags: all-in-one, application suites, business bydesign, business suite, byd, CloudAve, Collaboration, crm, Enterprise Software, erp, innovation, Integration, netsuite, peoplesoft, SaaS, saas sales, salesforce.com, sap, unstructured data, wikis, workday
The Sleek and the Geek @ SAP
Enterprise Software, Humor March 17th, 2010
Need more proof that being co-CEOS is an awkward situation? Watch this SiliconAngle video between 0:20 and 0:35
Of course you can watch the whole thing… and read these reports of the press event:
- Oracle Who? SAP Co-CEOs Slam Oracle – They Are The Old Way
- SAP State of The Union: The CEOs Talk Oracle, SaaS ERP
- New SAP CEOs promise faster development and execution
- SAP Co-CEOs Outline Strategy
- SAP aims to dispel its old school image
Meanwhile I’m just waiting for the promised mid-summer new release of Business ByDesign .. and what the company does about marketing / sales / partner ecosystem.

Tags: business bydesign, byd, ceo, CloudAve, co-ceo, erp, SaaS, sap, software as a service
Co-CEO: a Good Concept? Or Desperate Measure?
Enterprise Software February 7th, 2010
That was the fun part. After all, it’s Sunday. Now read the story here:
- News Analysis: SAP’s CEO Léo Apotheker Resigns
- SAP: Apotheker gone, co-CEO’s appointed
- “Enterprise software is entirely bereft of soul”

Tags: ceo succession, CloudAve, co-ceo, Enterprise Software, erp, leo apotheker, management shuffle, sap
Twitter in the Enterprise – Round 56745327
Enterprise Software December 8th, 2009
In the last minute I had to cancel my trip to the SAP Influencer Summit, but I am following it almost as if I was there – by following the Tweet Stream. SAP has also provided a Virtual Environment, where analysts, media, bloggers can interactively participate – right now I am watching a live video on their On Demand Strategy (hm.. how appropriate – watching the On-Demand session on-demand). The Virtual Environment includes Twitter tools, including sentiment analysis based on SAP’s Business Objects technology:
Tags: business objects, CloudAve, Enterprise, sap, sapsummit, sentiment analysis, Twitter




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