CloudAve: the First Week
Blogging, SaaS September 21st, 2008
Ah, the end of the fist week! The new baby, CloudAve is 7 days old! (..and I’m alive…
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We launched with a discussion on Harry Debes’s famous prediction, i.e. the imminent collapse of the SaaS market in two years. I doubt he realized just how much he re-energized the entire SaaS business, analyst obeservers – he certainly sparked a healthy discussion, even including Software Icon Dave Duffield, who refuted Debes’s argument. He should know, having been on both sides of the fence. (The podcast is available on CloudAve).
On my personal blog I don’t have to be as politically correct as on CloudAve, so here’s my summary: they tried SaaS, could not crack it, so concluded the market as a whole did not matter – a strategic mistake.. or… well, as they say, a picture says a thousand words. Ironically, the collapse of the US financial markets may just put things in a new prospective … more on this soon.
Ben compares the advent of Cloud Computing to corporate cars being replaced with allowances, while I present frustrating personal experience that could have gone smoothly using On-Demand tools.
We often talk about Cloud Computing and Software as a Service interchangeably, but are they really the same? Krish answers in a mini-series discussing the differences, i.e. segmenting out Infrastructure/Hardware as a Service (HaaS), Platform as a Service (PaaS) and Software as a Service (SaaS). In the second part of his mini-series Krish goes on a myth-busting mission, clearing up several common misunderstandings. His piece on Governor Palin’s email hijack episode could very well be considered myth-busting, too.
Dan Morrill addresses why Anti-Virus in the Cloud can offer more efficient protection and is also major relief to owners of slower computers, whose resources can be completely bogged down by the frequent Av updates and scans.
Ben, so far the most prolific author reviews Oprius, an online productivity tool for sales professionals, then proves that the second “S” in SaaS is the most important, presenting two service / help desk oriented services: Zendesk and HelpStream. He discusses NetSuite’s launch in Australia, then starts a discussion on Channels, largely triggered by another NetSuite related move – this may very well become an ongoing thread.
Talk about threads, next week we are launching a new daily feature, CloudNews – the title says it all.![]()
If you’ve been reading CloudAve, thank you, if not, why not head over and try … or perhaps just grab our feed.
See you on Cloud Avenue next week.
Tags: Blogging, cloud avenue, cloud computing, cloudave, On-Demand, SaaS
What Are a Million Users Worth? Zoho Thinks a Lot.
Business, SaaS August 6th, 2008
The first time I wrote about Zoho – the “Safer Office” they had less than 50 thousand users – not a lot for a web service. Today they announced having a million users – and that’s just direct Zoho users, not including those served by Baihui in China, or any other white label providers. Back then they had 3 products: Writer, Sheet and CRM – today the list includes 17 Applications, 5 Add-ons and 4 Utilities.
The chart below shows steady growth in monthly new registrations – the sudden spike in May is the effect of opening Zoho Apps to users with Google and Yahoo accounts.

Now, you may ask, what are a million users worth in the world of freebies?  Web startups do go out of business not being able to monetize their popularity. Zoho’s story has been that Adventnet, the parent company with “boring” but reliable, cash-cow network management products is financing the “Zoho experience”. Well, here’s an update to that story: the Zoho brand itself has been self-sustaining for a while now.
While Zoho does not disclose numbers – it’s their prerogative, being a closely held private company – they apparently have paying users. The number one revenue generator is Zoho CRM, that they were asked to abandon in order to be allowed to join Salesforce.com’s Appexchange. Apparently they made the right decision, and instead of being relegated to providing an Office Suite only, they keep on adding business applications like Projects, Invoice, People, Meeting..etc. Incidentally, these apps are where Zoho makes their money.
The free Office and other apps with the million-or-so users are Zoho’s main marketing vehicle. As we often discussed here, they don’t have a Sales force, in fact they don’t “sell” as such: the products sell themselves. This trend will likely increase as Zoho now increasingly focuses on integrating existing services rather then just pumping out new ones.
That is not to say that the Office Suite can’t became a source of significant revenue, but perhaps from a less expected source: while Zoho strives to become the outsourced IT department for small businesses (SMB) they have seen a flurry of large enterprise inquiries recently. I am aware of ongoing projects with customers that even enterprise software giants SAP or Oracle would consider strategic, key accounts – let alone Microsoft. ![]()
As for the one millionth user: Zoho CRM user Dean Detton of Prestige Automation Inc has been invited to celebrate at the Zoho Party during the Office 2.0 Conference on September 4th.
The address for the party is: 1 Cloud Avenue. See you there! ![]()
(Disclaimer: I am an Advisor to Zoho)
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Tags: adventnet, cloud computing, cloudave, crm, office 2.0, SaaS, web office, zoho
(OK, I sinned. Mea Culpa. I’ve just cross-posted an entire article, which is not the best behavior. But it’s not every day that I
P.S. The CloudAve platform is not exactly in nice order yet. It’s work-in-progress. 


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