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coComment or myComments?

After repeatedly crying out for a solution, I was really happy to become a beta user for coComment.  Little did I know that there were actually TWO comment tracking solutions announced almost the simultaneously.  

The coComment launch was a masterpiece of viral marketing: all it took was a couple of A-list bloggers  (Michael Arrington, Robert Scoble, Dave Winer, Om Malik, Steve Gillmor, Cory Doctorow, Richard MacManusStowe Boyd, and others) and a wildfire started.  Of course it did not hurt that coComment addressed a real burning need.  Or was it the 109–yr-old Cognac the Raclette and the jacuzzi?   More on the launch by Don Dodge.

The other announcement, that of myComments, although it happened a few days earlier,  went almost unnoticed.  No wonder, Diego, the author announced it on his own not-so-widely read blog.  A lesson to learn in marketing.

I have not had a chance to try myComments, so my initial comparison is based on what I read on his site, and some email information from Diego.

Both products essentially do the same:  if I leave a comment on someone’s blog, I can receive an RSS feed of all subsequent comments – the full conversation.  They have a fundamentally different approach getting there though:

CoComment requires a bookmarklet or a FireFox extension, and I have to click once to activate coCo before posting my message.

MyComments on the other hand requires a plug-in to be installed in the blog where I go to comment.  If the plug-in is present, I don’t have to click anymore.  At first glance this appears to be more convenient, since no extra step is required before posting the comment.  There is a problem, however – this is a great concept once it is widely used, but how do we get to that scale?  I want the results, but I can’t do anything about it, I am dependent on the host blog having the plug-in.  We’ll have to see if this solution can take off – until then, it’s coCo-time.

Related posts:

 Update (2/6):  Here’s a comparison of the two services, and a comprehensive review of blog commenting in general.

Update 2 (2/16):  Apparently there is a better solution, see here.

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coComment – Prelude to Virtual Blogs? The Genie is Out of the Bottle

Despite some initial glitches (hey, it’s pre-beta ) I enjoy using coComment. It is HOT.  Scoble announced it yesterday, then it quickly got profiled on TecCrunch, and people (including yours truly) were begging for invitattion codes to the closed beta, and now it’s all over Memeorandum, Megite, Tailrank .. you name it. (See more ref’s at the bottom).

Of course it did not hurt to have  “brand names” like Scoble and TechCrunh  jumpstart it, but coComment could not have possibly spread like this had it not met a very-very basic need.  Until now, we’ve been missing half the conversation in the Blogosphere.

The missing half is comments left by bloggers (or non-bloggers) on other people’s blogs. As Stowe Boyd’s new Conversational Index sharply shows,  the real vibrant blogs have far more comments than original posts by the blog author.   From the commenters’ pint of view, assuming they are not all A-listers (they can’t be… with 26 million blogs around), well, many of them participate in the conversation mostly this way, not on their lesser-known blogs.  In fact, there are hyper-active commenters who don’t even write their own blog. 

Michael Parekh has proposed that these blogless bloggers should have their Virtual Blog:

“There are possibly several times more folks who COMMENT on blogs as those who MAINTAIN their own blogs.  These are the “Lurkers” of old (remember the good old days of message boards?) who occasionally come out and say something when they really feel strongly about.

Imagine if every person who comments had a PRE-SET user name that worked on all blogs in the system.  Then imagine is that user-name could be used, with the user’s permission of course, to construct a “virtual blog” for that user on the fly, listing their comments across various blogs, WITH the under-lying context.  Voila…we’d have millions of new bloggers overnight with their own virtual blogs, WITHOUT them having to go through the EFFORT OF MAINTAINING A REGULAR BLOG AT ALL.”

Responding to Michael I pointed out that the the foundation for the preset username he proposes largely exists, in the form of Typekey by Typepad, Reader Accounts by Blogware… and whatever other authentication schemes the major platforms use.

Today there is another proposal on coComment’s forum about creating Virtual Blogs:

“Now, that’s interesting! Think about it. Czheng is an active “commenter” participating in conversations. Now, the Next Big Thing would be for coComment to have “virtual blogs” which are automatically created from the conversations they monitor. The more control they give the commenter, the more seamless the transition would be between commenting on other people’s blogs, and having those comments begin to populate your own blog automatically. Of course, you could then “tailor and edit” the content you’ve already (via commenting) put on your virtual blog….”

coComment-ers seem to have embraced the idea.  They are probably overwhelmed with feedback / ideas for a while.  Other contribute a lot more than ideas:  Brian Benzinger not only provided  a detailed review, but overnight he created a Greasemonkey script to automate the process.

The Genie is out of the bottle … there is no stopping now.   This is a good day for bloggers.

Related post (just a sampling from the deluge):

I give up, the list if far from complete, check out Megite, it’s dominated by coCo
It’s a real CoCorush


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Blogspot Down – Yawn

Blogspot appears to have been down for most of the day – yet I’m not hearing cries all over the Blogosphere.  This is in sharp contrast to the recent major  Typepad outage , where the world seemed to have come to an end    Is it the “you get what you pay for” effect, i.e. a free service can go down anytime, or is it the fact that Power-bloggers who can generate a lot of noise are all on Typepad?

 

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Tracking the COMPLETE CONVERSATION – Part 3

(Updates at the bottom)

Stowe Boyd introduces the concept of the Conversational Index:

“…successful blogs — ones that were currently viable and vibrant, and those that were on a growth trajectory from their start — shared a common characteristic: The ratio between posts and comments+trackbacks (posts/comments+trackbacks) was less than one. Meaning that there was more conversation — as indicated by the number of comments and track backs offered by readers — than posting articles. I will call this the Conversation Index, just to put a handle on it.

Here’s the current picture for /Message, a CI of 80/102 = 0.784. “

Conversational_index

I’m fully with him on this, the CI would be a really useful indicator of the interest level a blog enjoys – but we need to step further than just having another nice badge to be displayed on our blogs.  

The underlying issue that myself and other, more esteemed bloggers pointed out numerous times (see links below) is that currently we really are losing track of half the conversation in the Blogosphere.

As Stowe points out, for truly vibrant blogs the CI will be <1, which means there are far more comments than blog posts (I am cheating a little, ignoring trackbacks).  This will likely be the case for all the Technorati top 100 or even 500 bloggers – from their viewpoint most of the conversation happens on / around their own blog.  However, for the the rest of us, the other 26 million (?) bloggers chances are the conversation really takes place outside our own blog, and I for one certainly can’t keep track of all comments I left on other blogs.

The current crop of tracking / linking services all have a top-down publisher-centric view, where everything revolves around a blog and   its related posts, totally missing this other, “bottom-up” half of the conversation.  So please, somebody give Stowe his badge , but  we also badly  need a way to show by subject matter an integrated view of all conversations where we are participating whether we started the thread or someone else.

References:

 Update (1/3): TechCrunch just profiled another “conversation tracker”, Megite, which also got some praise at the Read/WriteWeb. OM is not too happy though…

Megite is Memeorandum-style, but covering more topics.  Nice, but still top-down, blog-focused, i.e. “conversations” consist of linked blog-posts, excluding the world of comments.  

     Update to the Update (gee..)  Megite apparently has special editions, there’ snow a Scobleized Megite

Update 2 (1/3):  Wow, this article got Megite-d

Update 3 (1/4): Wo-ho-ho, what a timing!  Robert Scoble announced and TechCrunch just profiled CoComment, the first attempt at tracking blog comments.   I’m looking forward to trying it … just need an invitation code.. ahhhh.  Here’s CoComment’s blog.

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Somebody Please Acquire Technorati. NOW!!!

 Somebody please buy Technorati, right NOW!   I really don’t care if it’s Microsoft or Yahoo (see below), I’m just sick of seeing this all the time:

Techorati

Like I’ve said before, kudos to Technorati for being the pioneers, for being a great  “idea company” – they truly are Innovators of the Blogosphere, just can’t scale.  Time for someone to take over.  And, on second thought, I do care: Yahoo would be a much better fit 

References:

 

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Kratia = Google + Digg?

Logo-kratia2  The First Democratic Search Engine

Search results are determined by user votes.  Kinda like a DigGoogle .. .except for now it uses MSN search.

Give it a try!  (via eHub)

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Free Virtual Printer Creates PDF, JPG, DOC, XLS and other Formats

Paperless Printer can convert almost any application data to PDF, HTML, DOC, Excel, JPEG or BMP including those created with drawing, page-layout, or image-editing programs. Using the application’s Print command, you can create files directly from Microsoft Office applications, database applications, word processing applications or common authoring applications. It truly is a Rare Find – and, incidentally (?) that is the name of the company.   (via the freeware review)

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Gmail Can Boost Your Non-Gmail Productivity

Gmail can greatly enhance your email experience, even for your non-Google accounts if you learn a few tricks.

(Update (4/3/07):  A year has passed and a lot has changed. Check out my new post here. )

Reading Paul Kedrosky’s and Michael Parekh’s  recent posts on the limits of Gmail storage prompted me to list the bag of tricks that made my life easier.  Note: I’m still not entirely online, have a lot of stuff on my desktop and am enslaved in Outlook-prison.

Multiple Gmail Accounts and aliases. We probably all do this: have a separate account for personal, blogging, subscriptions …etc use.  POP-download all, or use forwarding between the accounts.  Here’s a trick: the name+alias@gmail.com format.  Your core gmail account is name@gmail.com, but anything addressed in the “+alias” format will end up in your inbox. That way you can separate your subscriptions, different banks, brokers, airlines ..etc by setting up matching labels and corresponding auto-filters to assign the labels in gmail.

  • Having said that, my most important Gmail account is the one that I don’t use at all.  It’s my archive account.

All-In-One Searchable Archive.

  • Transferring historical data

    Like Paul, I also made Gmail my overall email archive. However, forwarding current email is of little value to me unless I can get ALL my historical email (those ugly Outlook archive.pst files dating back to the mid-90’s) dumped into ONE gmail account.  There are several “gmail-loader” tools on the Net, none of which are up to the task, IMHO.  Some  simply don’t work, others change the original sender information to the email account they use – pretty bad.   The simple solution is using Thunderbird with a redirect extension.  Steps to achieve this:

    • Open old archive.pst files in Outlook
    • Import all Outlook email into Outlook Express
    • Import from Outlook Express into Thunderbird.  (Yes, I know, Outlook > Thunderbird directly looks like a simpler process, but for some reason the direct import takes forever – we’re talking about a day for 1G of stuff … the extra steps saves a lot of time, don’t ask me why)
    • Download the Mail Redirect extension for Thunderbird.
    • Select all your email and redirect them to your gmail account.  The whole process will likely take hours, but it’s worth it.
    • Optional step:  set up gmail labels that match your Outlook folders / categories / archive files, and do the transfer in batches matching those groups.  On the gmail end set an autofilter that assigns the relevant label to ALL incoming email.  Obviously change the label for all new batch.

  •  Forwarding all current email
    • Setting up auto-forwarding for your incoming email is a no-brainer.  The ideal choice is to do it server-side, before it hits your Outlook (or whatever email client).  Unfortunately the choice with most ISP’s and email hosts is either POP or forwarding.  The service I use (1and1) allows 3 simultaneous destinations for inbound email:  inbox (for POP access) and two forwarding targets. When forwarding several (ALL) email accounts, you can use the alias-trick, i.e. forward to name+sourceaccount@gmail.com and autolabel accordingly.
    • You’ll need to forward all your outgoing email, and while using the BCC option is a more discreet approach, unbelievably Outlook does not have a rule for auto-BCC.  Hidden BCC is a great little tool to help with this, and at about $3 it’s as inexpensive as it gets …  Remember to use the alias-trick for your forwarding address, i.e. name+outgoingarchive@gmail.com.

  • Managing your account
    • Don’t ever use this email address / account directly; this is exclusively your personal archive.
    • With the above + using the alias trick, no email should ever directly be sent to this address, you can safely set an autofilter that moves everything that still arrives to name@gmail.com into the trash.
    • If you ever run short of space (see Paul’s concern), just create another gmail account.  No need to notify anyone, this is passive searchable storage, remember?  This is unlikely though, considering that Google continuously increases the available capacity, and if it still happens, you can separate the two archives by calendar year.

SPAM-filter for non-gmail accounts 

 “Spam detection and filtering in Gmail is as good as Yahoo’s SpamGuard” says Jeremy Zawodny.  He probably meant it as a compliment, but my impression is that Gmail is far better;  I left yahoo email specifically because of the insurmountable amount of spam.  Gmail meets the two fundamental criteria:  it catches all spam, and does not generate false positives.

  • Using gmail directly. 

    Of course a very simplistic approach is to forward all your email to a gmail address, have it spam-checked and pick it up from there, while making sure your outgoing email setup  always shows the non-gmail address.  If you’re like me and have reasons to directly use your non-gmail servers, the following will do the trick.

  • Indirectly

    We’ll set up all inbound email to make a round-trip to gmail and get spam-filtered there.

    • Set up a gmail account to forward ALL inbound email to your primary, non-gmail address. (name@otherdomain.com)
    • Set up a server-side filter on your your primary (non-gmail) account to examine the message header and look for this string: “X-Forwarded-For: name@gmail.com  name@otherdomain.com “ .  Any email not containing this string should be forwarded to gmail.  In other words,  only email on it’s way back from the gmail spam-check will get into your inbox, everything else will be forwarded.

The target gmail account for the Spam filtering and Archiving could be the same, you just have to make sure to set the gmail forwarding rule to also keep an archived copy of all email locally.

Get even more productive

By using less email … but that’s the subject of another post (hint: Think Wiki)

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OMG, I Got Toogled! :-)

Toogle.  (hat tip: Paul Kedrosky)

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MSN Censors Downloaders

Msn_messengerMSN IM now appears to block certain words, e.g. download.php, gallery.php …etc.

If you include these words in your chat session, on the sender everything appears normal, i.e. you will believe your IM just went through, however, the other side never receives it.

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