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The Web Office Smackdown – Why It Does Not Matter

Mighty Microsoft wants us to Say goodbye to Microsoft Office 2003, and I am happy to comply. In fact I already did.  Just not the way MS wanted me to: instead of Office 2007 I migrated to Office 2.0, and, given how many people read this post (around 60k so far), I am definitely not alone.

Ironically just hours after reading the Microsoft discussion on Techmeme, another one started– this time on Web Office Suite: Who’s Leading The Pack? I do have my (biased) opinion, but the short, perhaps surprising answer: it does not matter.   As to the bias, I am an Advisor to Zoho – so take everything I say with a grain of salt.  In fact take everything anyone says with a grain of salt – we’re talking about freely available systems, go ahead, try them yourself.  

My bias aside I still picked the apps I think keep me most productive, and for now it is Gmail from Google and all other services from Zoho.  Yes, this means there are a few things I prefer in Gmail over Zoho Mail – but I’m actually using both, and due to Gmail’s architecture and a trick in Zoho Mail, my email is always in sync, no matter which one I access.  Zoho Mail is currently in private beta, and I expect it to improve significantly before the public launch. (Yes, one day I don’t want to have to say I prefer Gmail )

For word processing, spreadsheet, presentation…etc. needs I do consider Zoho the better choice.    There is the quantitative approach taken by ReadWriteWeb, i.e. Zoho simply has far more productivity apps than Google – but to me it’s the quality of the individual services, and as such, it’s clearly a subjective assessment.  I’m in good company though – see the MIT Technology Review, Gartner and countless blogs  in agreement.

Integration between all these applications is an area where Zoho’s homegrown strategy is starting to show results: for a good example just look at how Zoho Meeting sessions (the product announced today) can simply be embedded into Zoho Show slides. Compare it to today’s big news: Google’s presentation product will be piecemeal-ed together from  technology and talent acquired from Zenter and previously Tonic Systems, and perhaps one day integrated with the other Google Apps acquired elsewhere.   With this acquisition Google is on equal footing with Zoho, says Om Malik.  I doubt it, but frankly, that statement is  quite a compliment to Zoho.smile_wink.  Anyway,  the shopping-spree vs. homegrown integrated products comparison reminds me of the Oracle vs. SAP match in the Big Boys League (Enterprise Software).

 

I’ve started this article by saying it does not matter who’s better.  Time to explain what I mean.  I have no doubt Google will be the Web Office Suite market leader. It’s so simple: Zoho has more applications, of better quality, more integrated – but they don’t have Google’s clout.  But this is not a winner-take-it-all, zero-sum game: all players, including Google and Zoho are creating a new, emerging market.  It’s not about slicing the pie yet, it’s about making sure the pie will be huge – and Google’s brand is the best guarantee to achieving that.  Little Zoho can be a tremendously successful business being second to Google.  There will always be room for a second .. third… perhaps fourth. Data privacy, the quality of the products, better service, or just having a choice – there will always be reasons for customers to opt for a non-Google solution.

There’s more.  Now that ZDNet’s Dan Farber “outed” it, we can talk about Zoho’s further plans, including Business Edition, coming later this year.  (Dan’s story is actually the best backgrounder on “all things Zoho” I’ve seen published recently – I guess it was a productive yacht partysmile_shades. )  Zoho does not stop at “Office” applications: Dan hints at ERP and other business applications.  Almost a year ago I wrote a (then) speculative post: From Office Suite to Business Suite, and being the lazy guy I am, I’ll just quote myself here:

How about transactional business systems?  Zoho has a CRM solution – big deal, one might say, the market is saturated with CRM solutions.  However, what Zoho has here goes way beyond the scope of traditional CRM: they support Sales Order Management, Procurement, Inventory Management, Invoicing – to this ex-ERP guy it appears Zoho has the makings of a CRM+ERP solution, under the disguise of the CRM label.

Think about it.   All they need is the addition Accounting, and Zoho can come up with an unparalleled Small Business Suite, which includes the productivity suite (what we now consider the Office Suite) and all process-driven, transactional systems: something like NetSuite + Microsoft, targeted for SMB’s.”

Hm… today some of the above is no longer pure speculation.  If I expected Google to be the Web Office market leader, I can’t even begin to predict what happens to hosted business applications. 

Google has no offering in this market, and although there was a lot of speculation about them buying Salesforce.com,  the “big announcement” was a disappointment.  Of course they could still pull off a deal – but I wouldn’t, if I were Google.  Don’t get me wrong: I would actually like to see Google enter this market, since they have the clout to effectively create and expand it. I even know who they should buy (no, it does not start with Z) – but that’s a subject of another post.

Summing it all up, I believe the winner of the “on-demand race” will not be Google, Zoho, or any of their competitors – the winners will be the customers who will have a lot more choice in picking the right business solutions later this year. 

Update (7/6): Zoho vs Google Docs, of all places at Google Operating System.

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Atlassian: Is There a Message Behind the New Homepage?

Atlassian, makers of Confluence, the market-leading Enterprise Wiki has a new homepage. So what? – you may ask. Well, as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, and this case is no exception. Two pointers (not that you need any):

  • Atlassian is a four-product company, and the old site reflected that.
  • Their original hit was Jira, later Confluence, as a downloadable product. They were somewhat late with a hosted version – but they delivered what the market wanted, and their numbers speak for themselves.

Times change. One would have to be blind not to see they are getting a new religion: (old page to the right, new one below)

Update: One would either have to be blind, or just look at the site at another time… as it turns out (see Mike’s comment below), the big banner is a rotating one… so much for going to SaaS Church together smile_embaressed Oh, well, if you want to find out more about Atlassian, you can attend their user conference in Boston on Palo Alto.

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Peer to Patent Project Live

I previously wrote about New York Law School professor Beth Noveck’s experiment to create a Wikipedia-like system that allows outside peer reviewers participate in the patent examination / review process.  

Why?  It’s really simple: the US Patent Office is overwhelmed, it has very few examiners with deep knowledge of tax law, especially of “creative technics” – just like it feels outdated in technology, software issues.  Add to this the explosion in the number of patent applications “leaving examiners only 20 hours on average to comb through a complex application, research past inventions, and decide whether a patent should be granted.”

In an unlikely cooperation of Government, technology giants like IBM & HP and Academia, the  Peer to Patent Project  launched last Friday.   The new system already has a “competitor”, in the form of a private initiative, Wikipatents.com.

It’s great to see wikis put to good use thumbs_up

Details on CNet.

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When a Spreadsheet is NOT a Spreadsheet

Looks are deceiving.  Several  sources  reported that Smartsheet, the web-based “spreadsheet creation” service, has raised $2.69 million in a Series A-4 of funding, led by Madrona Venture Group.  The true part is that they received funding – congratulations – but what everyone got wrong is calling it a spreadsheet service.  It is not.

 

Smartsheet is in the business of collaborative  task management & tracking, and they came up with a simple idea: why not use an interface that just about all computer-users are familiar with: the spreadsheet.  Clearly more users are familiar with the look-and-feel of spreadsheets than with task management / project management systems.  I think it’s a great approach – no wonder Smartsheet won two awards at the recent Under the Radar Office 2.0 event. 

Another Under the Radar participant, and one I happen to like chose a similar approach: Wrike allows users manage projects without having to use project management software – it’s all done via email.  Interestingly, everyone got this one – nobody’s calling Wrike an email system, just because they manage projects via email. smile_wink.    By the same token, Smartsheet is not a spreadsheet service – for online spreadsheets you’d have to try EditGrid, Zoho Sheet or Google Docs & Spreadsheets.

This paradigm shift – ignoring the more complicated UI of special systems and using widely popular, familiar systems to carry out more complicated tasks – is not unknown even “heavy” enterprise software: a prime example is SAP’s Duet: accessing ERP functions via Office apps.

 

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Update on My Z-life

(This is an update of an older post, which I don’t normally do, but Zooomr’s Mark III launch offered the opportunity I just could not resist)

I’m living a Z-life.. quite fitting for a Z-guy. I’m a life-long Z-lister, writing this post in Zoho Writer and embedding photos from Zooomr.

I’m really glad to have witnessed the exemplary co-operation between two of my Z-portfolio companies, Zoho and Zooomr, which resulted in Zooomr’s succesful re-launch. Of course this wouldn’t have happened without Robert Scoble’s help – now, you may wonder where the “Z” is in Ze Scobleizer – but he is the A-lister that cares about Z-listers the most.

Thank you guys for the wonderful display of community spirit, and I am drinking a little Z-wine in your honor.

Now, back to the Z-apps, I frequently use several other Zoho apps, especially Sheets and Show, and am previewing a few more to come. (But no, rumors of me being renamed to Zoho Zoli are not substantiated smile_thinking)

I labeled Zvents Probably the Best Event Calendar in the World! and I think I was right, even though I use it less often nowadays. Hey, the celebration partymartiniwas great, and thanks for the T-shirt! Z-shirt. smile_shades

And now that I’m done with the Z-wine, on a lazy Sunday afternoon – are there any other Z-apps I should use?

 

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Zooomr is On the Way to Recovery – with Help from Zoho

Zooomr, the hardware-challenged photo-sharing startup is on the way to recovery.  I’ll post more details after they make their announcement (or come up live), but for now here’s a live video feed showing the Zooomr team (Kristopher & Thomas) working with Zoho’s Raju Vegesna on recovering their system at Zoho’s data center.

 

You may also want to read Thomas Hawk’s comment on Robert Scoble’s blog.

Update: Scoble has a new post with updates.

 

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Survey on Managing Wikis in Business

If you are/were involved in using a wiki in a business environment and can spare 10 minutes, you may be interested in taking this survey run by Penny Edwards, an MBA student in the UK.  You’ll be able to see the current stats upon concluding the survey.

 

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Not All Notebooks Are Created Equal

Whenever Zoho releases a new product, the “default” comparison is to relevant Google products.  Perhaps it’s because of this “reflex” that most  blogs  immediately   compare the newly released Zoho Notebook to Microsoft OneNote and Google Notebook.

I have a suggestion: let’s add 3M’s post-it notessmile_wink   Joke apart, Google Notebook is really an online yellow sticky, while Zoho’s Notebook is a full-featured multimedia application to create, aggregate, share, collaborate on just about any type of content easily, be it text, database, spreadsheet, image, drawings, audio, video – you name it.  The only thing the two “Notebooks” share is the name, otherwise they simply play in different leagues.  I tend to agree with Read/WriteWeb“Zoho Notebook offered different things than Microsoft OneNote and more things than Google Notebook.

You can clip content from the Web, or create your own, in a free-form, true drag-and-drop environment. Embed video, audio, RSS feed, or use special page types that load Zoho Writer, Sheet and other applications. 

The level of re real-time collaboration is a true breakthrough: you can share book-level, page-level or individual object-level information.  This means you can selectively collaborate with certain users on your text, while sharing the chart with yet another group, and hiding the rest.   Updates to any of these objects are reflected in the NoteBook real-time.  Integration with Skype allows Skype presence indicators in the individual shared object as well as direct IM-ing over Skype. Needless to say, version-control is taken care of at the object-level, too.

This is application is way too feature-rich to describe. Instead, watch this demo, then try it yourself.

 

NoteBook is unquestionably the sleekest of all Zoho apps, and a technological marvel.  There are clearly specific target demographics, like students, where an All-In-One notetaker is the killer app.  In a more typical business environment one might wonder where it fits in the range of products available, and what application to use when. Back in January when Notebook was “pre-released” at Demo, fellow Enterprise Irregular Dennis Howlett found specific use-cases for the accounting profession:

“I can see huge potential for this among those professionals who need to assemble audit and M&A resources for example. It makes the creation of a multi-disciplinary team very easy with the ongoing ability to collaborate as projects evolve while remaining in an organised, controllable environment.

I can see other use cases arising in forensic work, planning, budget management, time and expense management – the list goes on. In this sense, Zoho Notebook could become the de facto desktop for knowledge workers because you don’t need to leave the service to do pretty much all the tasks you’d expect a knowledge worker to undertake. I can also envisage some interesting mashups using accounting data from a saas player that gets pulled into Notebook on and ad hoc basis. Does this mean Notebook is a ’silver bullet’ application.

I’m going to stick my neck out and say a qualified ‘yes.”

Office 2.0 critics/sceptics often say these apps should go beyond offering web-based equivalents of existing PC applications. With Notebook Zoho clearly shows they don’t just take us to the “cloud”, they bring us true innovation. 

(Disclosure:  I’m an Advisor to Zoho and am obviously biased. Don’t take my words for anything I’ve just said – go ahead and try it yourself).

Update:  Robert Scoble has just posted his recent  video interview with  CEO Sridhar Vembu and Zoho Evangelist Raju Vegesna.

 

 

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iGoogle, but Which One? Time to Fix the Google Apps Chaos…

(Updated)

Now that they got a snazzy name (whatever happened to Google’s naming convention of coming up with beauties like Google Docs & Spreadsheets, Google Docs & Spreadsheets & Presentations & Wikis, & insert-new-product-here? smile_wink ) perhaps it’s time to eliminate the chaos Google caused by sloppy implementation of the otherwise great Google Apps service.

If you’re not familiar with the latter, I strongly suggest reading David Berlind’s excellent overview at ZDNet. He concludes that there are two parallel Google-worlds: the consumer, public one we all know, and one that’s being built somewhat under the radar, allowing businesses to customize their own domain, maintain users, security, business email, calendar, documents – essentially white-labeling Google’s applications.

That’s all great, except that access to the private-domain features is accidental at best – let me share my experience. When I signed up, I linked my own domain to may existing Google Account, which is tied to a Gmail address. Now I’m a happy gmail user while preserving my own domain. So far so good – trouble starts trying to access any other Google Apps.

  • I can easily get to them by direct URL’s in the form of calendar.mydomain.com, docs.mydomain.com …etc – but what happens when I try to *really* use them, say, import a calendar entry from upcoming.org, zvents, or any event site? The “old” calendar at myname@gmail.com comes up as default.
  • Recently I tried installing the Etelos CRM add-on to Google – guess what, it went to the personalized homepage (now iGoogle) at myname@gmail.com and I had no way to force it to install at start.mydomain.com – which is attached to the same Google account.
  • What about Gmail and Google Docs integration? If you use your “regular” gmail account and receive a Microsoft Word/Excel document, there’s an option to view them as a Google Doc or Spreadsheet. The first few times I tried to use the same option from my branded gmail account (name@mydomain.com) I got a “document not found” error. Google must have realized the trouble, they now removed the “View as Google Doc” option from Google Apps email.
  • Even the otherwise excellent Google Groups is messed up: when I am logged in as name@mydomain.com, Google Groups I am a member of with this account won’t recognize me. I actually have to have duplicate identities created in Google Groups: one to be able to send email (my own domain) and one to be able to access Group’s other features via the browser (@gmail format).

Perhaps it’s obvious by now that the trouble is not with the individual applications. The Google Accounts concept is a total chaos. It creates a dual identity, and while I can always access the private-label Google Apps via direct URL, in a short while the default pops up its nasty head and the original, public (@gmail) format and applications take over. Net result: I gave up trying to use Google Apps, except for Gmail. And I can’t help but agree with this TechCrunch commenter:

“…Instead I have this hamstrung barely functional thing where my login refuses to work anywhere else on Google and none of the apps have a link back to the portal page! So much for Single Sign On. And forget importing from an existing account in any slick way. A huge missed opportunity whilst the waste time playing with logos and bad branding on /ig”

Now, on a less serious note, back to the naming issue: If (when?) Google’s phone comes out, will it be an iPhone? After all, Steve Jobs has just demonstrated that being first does not mattersmile_sarcastic

Update (5/7/2007): I’ve been wondering why there was no huge outcry because of the above – after all it renders some apps quite useless. Now I understand: apparently you can now sign up for Google Apps directly with your domain, without having to tie it to a pre-existing Google Account. This is good news, since a lot less users are affected. This is also bad news, for the very same reason: less users, less pressure to fix it, so the early Beta users are stuck…

Update (1/20/08): I think it is fixed now. :-)

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Google Charts, Presentations (Pre-Announcing a’la Microsoft)

Almost a year ago I wrote about a visual comparison of Google and Zoho spreadsheets. At the time, Zoho simply KO’d Google, which had no charting support whatsoever. Of course this was more then just a “beauty-contest”: charting is simply the most effective way of visually conveying a message, and as such a “must have”.

It’s time to update that comparison (I’m using the same spreadsheet, updated to today’s numbers), since Google has announced charting capabilities today, adding 18 types of charts to select from (Zoho has 27, and ThinkFree 32).

Clearly, Google is catching up on the appearance front, the new charts are appealing. (Click on the pics to view the public version of the original spreadsheets).

On the publication side, Zoho still leads: instead of using images, like I did here for the sake of comparison, I could have simply embedded the system-generated script which would keep my Zoho Sheet inside this blog post up-to-date. In fact sometimes it makes sense to publish only the chart, without the underlying spreadsheet, like this:

Feedburner Subscribers in % - http://sheet.zoho.comThe chart to the right is not an image, any changes in the originating spreadsheet will be immediately reflected in the published article.

The addition of charts was announced today in Google’s usual, understated style; in fact the first blog post on the subject was titled How to make a pie. For all I know it could have been Grandma’s Apple Pie recipe. smile_tongue

Contrary to this the other Google announcement came with a lot of hoopla, CEO Eric Schmidt dropping the news of Google’s Presentation software in front of ten thousand Web 2.0 Expo attendees. The only problem is, unlike Zoho and ThinkFree, Google does not have the Presentation creator/manager yet, it won’t be coming for months, and as Google Blogoscoped observes, this preannouncement “Microsoft-style”, instead of just releasing products and let users discover them is “uncool” – and a break away from Google’s good traditions.

Talk about announcement, Zoho, which has made it a tradition to launch a new product at just about any event – and in between – surprised: there was no announcement. Are the sleeping? I think not, in fact as Advisor to Zoho I am quite happy with them announcing no announcements: they plan “not to release any new application until we open up our existing private-beta applications (Notebook, Meeting & Mail)”.

Those who attended the SMB Application Marketplace session at Web 2.0 Expo may have picked up on something more to come though: responding to a moderator question, Zoho Evangelist Raju Vegesna stated they want to “become the IT department of small businesses“… and there is clearly more to SMB IT than just an Office Suite.

Like I’ve stated before, 2007 will be the year when it’s all coming together.

Update (4/18): Note to Google: it’s *not* a very good idea to display my email address on spreadsheets I choose to make public. Sorry, Google, my mistake, I used the wrong URL (not the public one).

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